Connecting symbols
In conversation might our individual and group symbols be connected by their relationships? Might these relationships build to a group metaphor?
:- Doug.
In conversation might our individual and group symbols be connected by their relationships? Might these relationships build to a group metaphor?
:- Doug.
Just as our body-mind needs sleep, so too do our conversations. The Why, the What’s going on, is so far mystery.
:- Doug.
Alexander’s The Nature of Order is less about 15 transformations and more about sequence and unfolding.
:- Doug.
“I bought a liquor store about two months ago.”
“Oh, really? Is that the kind of conversation you want to have with your community? With your world and your grandchildren?”
“I do need to accumulate money.”
:- Doug.
There’s something valuable in talking together, but we don’t yet know. Or maybe simply we don’t yet have words. Or its size, shape, and closeness puts it out of our manipulating hands.
:- Doug.
My difficulty is remembering to bring in Clean. I might need to look for clues or triggers: What do you mean? Do I want to understand you better? Is there something verdant in what you said?
:- Doug.
I think it is not necessary to have the consent of the other to have a Clean Language sort of conversation: The other might just play along and so we gain; even if we do not, they might upon reflection later. So it is worth trying.
:- Doug.
The thing is to turn Clean Language from therapy to conversation. What are the overlaps, what are the borderlands? So how does it work in groups? Do we see what each sees, what metaphors and symbols we carry and meld them into one? More likely we see how we each conceive and perceive, then we interleave our approaches with one another, creating something entirely new.
:- Doug.
We cannot know conversation ahead. We can only get glimpses of its light, intuit the deep roll of its thunder hundreds of miles off.
:- Doug.
What is the light of this conversation? What is the inkling we have of this light?
:- Doug.
In conversation you are invited to be hearer, to be healer.
You are invited.
To find what healer could be. What else. What kind. Where. To find out what happens next. Or just before. Or where that could come from.
:- Doug.
Since every process is in conversation or is conversation, every process can be a metaphor for conversation. We can learn from theater and architecture: what else? From what can we not learn about conversation?
:- Doug.
Conversing like learning is a process of adaptation and fitting—that is, life—that is, change.
:- Doug.
When I keep running into the same familiar writers and works, I begin to know I have covered this ground adequately. I should then go elsewhere. This takes effort and some fear of having my thinking cart upset.
:- Doug.
Conversation is more than communication and discovery of other and self. It is also influence, manipulation, and pulling along. There is inventing and creating. What do we not know of the purposes for which conversation is employed?
:- Doug.
In our schools, ought we teach how to converse? Ought we teach also, how to invent converse?
:- Doug.