Your verdant saying
My difficulty is remembering to bring in Clean. I might need to look for clues or triggers: What do you mean? Do I want to understand you better? Is there something verdant in what you said?
:- Doug.

My difficulty is remembering to bring in Clean. I might need to look for clues or triggers: What do you mean? Do I want to understand you better? Is there something verdant in what you said?
:- Doug.
I think it is not necessary to have the consent of the other to have a Clean Language sort of conversation: The other might just play along and so we gain; even if we do not, they might upon reflection later. So it is worth trying.
:- Doug.
Footprints in the Windsm # 2140
I am wondering about the benefit—and necessity—of a time away from the conversation. Two sleeps, or a sleepover on a mountain or beside a lake. What do we not know of that?
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The thing is to turn Clean Language from therapy to conversation. What are the overlaps, what are the borderlands? So how does it work in groups? Do we see what each sees, what metaphors and symbols we carry and meld them into one? More likely we see how we each conceive and perceive, then we interleave our approaches with one another, creating something entirely new.
:- Doug.